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    So as the title would suggest, my PTU went out again. Warranty over.

    I've been driving it it less frequently and the fuse to the PTU is disconnected now - maybe put 150 miles since the "srvc AWD" light stayed on permanently - intermittent before. Question is - can I run without the driveshaft connected?

    I don't want to end up driving it and have it lock up or something before I can fix it.

    It is starting to make noise like an old 10 speed bicycle freewheeling when moving - noise gets faster with speed not engine RPM. It's for sure the PTU - the sound is audible from either side of the front, bearings are fine, CV's are fine etc...
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    Sorry to hear of the PTU failure. That is disappointing. If that has been replaced under warranty previously, I believe I would ask Chrysler to provide some ( any ) assistance.

    Are rebuilt units available ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fltru103 View Post
    Sorry to hear of the PTU failure. That is disappointing. If that has been replaced under warranty previously, I believe I would ask Chrysler to provide some ( any ) assistance.

    Are rebuilt units available ?
    My wife also suggested I check to see if Chrysler would provide assistance since it has failed a few times under warranty. Maybe I will go that route.

    I can find new, rebuilt and used units - its the same part number as on the active drive 1 Cherokee (not "Grand" Cherokee - but the small one).
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    Black Knight,

    With the multiple PTU issues you've experienced, I'm curious whether you drive predominantly in "S" mode with the AWD engaged, especially at highway speeds when ascending grades. It occurs to me that the AWD system may actually be under-engineered for this kind of "sporty" usage. I'm speculating that any durability testing was with a lighter duty cycle in mind, such as for the Cherokee with only periodic use at lower speeds for off-road or slippery conditions.

    Regardless, I would definitely raise the issue of the repeated failures with FCA. It certainly can't hurt to complain, as these failures really should not be happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pennhaven View Post
    Black Knight,

    With the multiple PTU issues you've experienced, I'm curious whether you drive predominantly in "S" mode with the AWD engaged, especially at highway speeds when ascending grades. It occurs to me that the AWD system may actually be under-engineered for this kind of "sporty" usage.
    I predominately drive on the highway in "D" with the cruise on. My commute is 37-46 miles each way depending on if I take the tollway (faster time longer distance) or the normal highway. I ocassionally step on it in "S" but mostly in the city and not all the time. Too much traffic anyway.

    The longer i have owned it the less "fun" I have had with it. I would think that too but if you do some web searching "Cherokee PTU failure" - the problems I am having with my PTU are identical with people with Cherokee's, including driveshaft and rear axle issues. Quite a number of them in fact. Lots of video's etc... Cherokee's, Renegades, Compass - basically all FWD based AWD newer FCA vehicles with the 9-speed.

    https://jeepcherokeeclub.com/4-2014-...trailhawk.html
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    Sorry too hear the bad news B.K. I would definitely try the dealer/FCA for help seeing it was already replaced under warranty and you just went over 100k. WTF they're using the same weak parts, you'd think the part be upgraded bye now, the Jeeps aren't going anywhere.
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    After it's fixed I have decided I will probably run with the fuse un-plugged except in the winter on most days if I keep this thing - when the time comes I will decide. This is based on my experience and Tyler-98-W68's posts on a Cherokee forum.

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    Had my service AWD light come on a few weeks ago, luckily still under powertrain warranty... they replaced a PTU actuator (at least that's what the said) and all was well for a couple weeks... driving home to grab lunch today and what do you know, service AWD is back. Not sure what the deal is, buy luckily my powertrain warranty is good until December of this year (won't hit 100k by then) so this should all be under that warranty... just very frustrating that this car has been pretty much problem-free (other than a few little things) for 71,000+ miles and now, all of a sudden, I'm running into these issues!

    Hopefully you have good luck getting your issue taken care of... not sure how many miles you have on your 200, but worth checking to see if your powertrain is still covered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lswaidz View Post
    Had my service AWD light come on a few weeks ago, luckily still under powertrain warranty... they replaced a PTU actuator (at least that's what the said) and all was well for a couple weeks... driving home to grab lunch today and what do you know, service AWD is back. Not sure what the deal is, buy luckily my powertrain warranty is good until December of this year (won't hit 100k by then) so this should all be under that warranty... just very frustrating that this car has been pretty much problem-free (other than a few little things) for 71,000+ miles and now, all of a sudden, I'm running into these issues!

    Hopefully you have good luck getting your issue taken care of... not sure how many miles you have on your 200, but worth checking to see if your powertrain is still covered.

    102K miles.

    I am learning the PTU on the Cherokee this one not the Jeep Grand Cherokee and 200 is a POS (same part number), through experience and reading.

    If I had it to do over again, I would have purchased the FWD or bought another vehicle altogether, I might should have kept my 13' 200S V6.

    If I were a wagering individual I would put $$ that your replacement PTU went out and that they will need to replace it again.

    After I fix mine, I am going to drive it with the fuse pulled most of the time and only plug it back in when I know I am going to have to drive it in severely bad weather.
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    That's what scares the **** out of me... I'm sitting on the cusp of losing that warranty coverage and the fact that they already "replaced" things once really worries me. I'll have to talk to the dealer tomorrow morning about what kind of guarantee their work has... if this keeps happening and I get beyond the 5 years/100k then we're going to have some issues.

    I was really hoping to get another 3'ish years out of this car, so fingers crossed at this point, I suppose.

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