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The correct license plate lamps are still incandescent. LEDs draw much less current and can trigger an undercurrent fault code. The correct bulb is a W5W or # 2825.
Get an LL (long life) bulb as closing the trunk can jar and open the filament.
  • B16E7-18-LICENSE PLATE LAMP CONTROL - UNDER CURRENT
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The correct license plate lamps are still incandescent. LEDs draw much less current and can trigger an undercurrent fault code. The correct bulb is a W5W or # 2825.
Get an LL (long life) bulb as closing the trunk can jar and open the filament.
  • B16E7-18-LICENSE PLATE LAMP CONTROL - UNDER CURRENT
  • B16E7-19-LICENSE PLATE LAMP CONTROL - OVER CURRENT
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Is the license plate lights even an error to worry about? I was just going to keep the error there.
 

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Not a problem. Just an FYI.
This is a common problem for owners who add LED headlamps when the car is supposed to have Halogens though, as the protection circuit can turn off the headlamps while driving or cause them to flicker.
 
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I also have a question for you. Does your car come with Sirius XM satellite, meaning do you have the satellite radio cord in your car?
I’m asking because I was watching infotainment.com video on upgrading a 2014 ram pickup from UConnect 3 to the Uconnect 4C successfully. The guy in the video said once the SXM icon appears under Am, and Fm on the radio screen, that means the radio is fully cooperative and connected.

It really irritates me why these ram trucks and other mopar cars can do these projects so easily. I guess it is because they still make newer RAM trucks and what infotainment.com probably does is copy the code from one of the newer trucks that contains a 4C uconnect unit and modifies it every time someone places an order for the upgrade kit (referring to the Uconnect 3 to 4C upgrade kit for 2014 ram trucks). Thus is why they ask you for your VIN if you place an order for the upgrade and this is also how their kit is actually plug and play. They do all the hard work and program the radios then just ship them out. I would love to try something like this, but if it ever came out from infotainment.com, it would be $1000+ , definitely not worth it.

wish infotainment.com would give us 200 drivers some advice or something how to do this. May try and give them a call tomorrow and find something out.

Yes I have SiriusXM on my vehicle.
 

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So I forgot to mention along time ago I had a friend who rented a newer 300 and I actually pulled the proxi config of the vehicle hoping to replicate it. Unfortunately the formatting is different.

I believe the dealership was selling you a bunch of bull to be honest.

This is the day and age of mass production. The whole Mopar line uses more or less interchangeable parts. We can prove it by the first time we plugged in our new radios and doing a power cycle having the splash screen and theme pages changing from keep to Chrysler. The jeep guys can prove it by having off road maps when they do their swaps. The ram guys can prove it by adding that interface cable retaining the canbus messages to turn on their seat heaters. It's a digital age now. if I turn on my car and my new radios message of '0x FD 34456' isn't understood by the recieving module then we're going to have issues like we do.

To further elaborate this is what the ram cable infotainment sells is doing. That UCT 4.0 SEATS box is in series with the vehicle bus data lines and is taking the new message of '0x FB 3465' ( turn on heated steering) and converting it to the old message of 0x AB 1234' (turn on heated steering). Hope that makes sense.

Furthermore, has anyone tried the extend proxi command in alfaobd yet? Think I'll plug in my scanner and see if that will process through the car in theory letting us add custom proxi strings.
 

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So I forgot to mention along time ago I had a friend who rented a newer 300 and I actually pulled the proxi config of the vehicle hoping to replicate it. Unfortunately the formatting is different.

I believe the dealership was selling you a bunch of bull to be honest.

This is the day and age of mass production. The whole Mopar line uses more or less interchangeable parts. We can prove it by the first time we plugged in our new radios and doing a power cycle having the splash screen and theme pages changing from keep to Chrysler. The jeep guys can prove it by having off road maps when they do their swaps. The ram guys can prove it by adding that interface cable retaining the canbus messages to turn on their seat heaters. It's a digital age now. if I turn on my car and my new radios message of '0x FD 34456' isn't understood by the recieving module then we're going to have issues like we do.

To further elaborate this is what the ram cable infotainment sells is doing. That UCT 4.0 SEATS box is in series with the vehicle bus data lines and is taking the new message of '0x FB 3465' ( turn on heated steering) and converting it to the old message of 0x AB 1234' (turn on heated steering). Hope that makes sense.

Furthermore, has anyone tried the extend proxi command in alfaobd yet? Think I'll plug in my scanner and see if that will process through the car in theory letting us add custom proxi strings.
That does make sense and I didn’t say the dealer was telling the truth haha. What I did mean, however, was the 4c radio from the jeep is probably programmed with a newer code, same thing as the heated seat issue with the rams. So I agree and think we would just need a code converter cable, like the ram has. Either that or someone who is familiar enough to mess around with the code.

And also, yes I tried the extend proxi feature and that did nothing for me. Actually, I needed to extend my proxi command in order to mess around with some car configurations, like to activate uconnect 7, for example. Originally, I would get an error message saying something like proxi too short…
 

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If anyone wants to take a look and maybe suggest something, i would highly appreciate that. Heres the errors, proxy, and system ID:

2/5/2022 7:21:23 PM
Present faults found.
B2204
B16E7
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Error code: B2204
ECU Configuration Mismatch
Not configured

Error present

Error code: B16E7
License Plate Lamp Control
Circuit current below threshold

Error present


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CAN UNITS CONFIGURED IN PROXY:
Body Computer (BCM)
Engine/Powertrain Control (ECM/PCM)
Electric Power Steering (EPS)
Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC)
Anti-Lock Brakes (ABS)
Driver door (DDM/DMM/FDM/UDM)
Heat, Ventilation and Air Conditioner (HVAC)
Transmission Control Module (TCM)
Electronic Parking Brake (EPB)
Passenger Door Module (PDM)
Electronic Shift Module (ESM)
Occupant Restraint Module (ORC)
Entertainment Telematic Module (LTM/ETM/HTM)
Integrated Center Stack (ICS/HCPM)
Steering Column Control Module (SCCM)
RADIO FREQUENCY HUB (RFH)
Occupant Classification Module (OCM)
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PRESENT CAN UNITS:
Body Computer (BCM)
Engine/Powertrain Control (ECM/PCM)
Electric Power Steering (EPS)
Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC)
Anti-Lock Brakes (ABS)
Driver door (DDM/DMM/FDM/UDM)
Heat, Ventilation and Air Conditioner (HVAC)
Transmission Control Module (TCM)
Electronic Parking Brake (EPB)
Passenger Door Module (PDM)
Electronic Shift Module (ESM)
Occupant Restraint Module (ORC)
Entertainment Telematic Module (LTM/ETM/HTM)
Integrated Center Stack (ICS/HCPM)
Steering Column Control Module (SCCM)
RADIO FREQUENCY HUB (RFH)
Occupant Classification Module (OCM)
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CAN UNITS WITH EOL IN PROXY:
Body Computer (BCM)
Engine/Powertrain Control (ECM/PCM)
Electric Power Steering (EPS)
Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC)
Anti-Lock Brakes (ABS)
Driver door (DDM/DMM/FDM/UDM)
Heat, Ventilation and Air Conditioner (HVAC)
Transmission Control Module (TCM)
Electronic Parking Brake (EPB)
Passenger Door Module (PDM)
Occupant Restraint Module (ORC)
Entertainment Telematic Module (LTM/ETM/HTM)
Integrated Center Stack (ICS/HCPM)
Steering Column Control Module (SCCM)
RADIO FREQUENCY HUB (RFH)
Occupant Classification Module (OCM)
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CAN UNITS WITH EOL:
Body Computer (BCM)
Engine/Powertrain Control (ECM/PCM)
Electric Power Steering (EPS)
Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC)
Anti-Lock Brakes (ABS)
Driver door (DDM/DMM/FDM/UDM)
Heat, Ventilation and Air Conditioner (HVAC)
Transmission Control Module (TCM)
Electronic Parking Brake (EPB)
Passenger Door Module (PDM)
Occupant Restraint Module (ORC)
Entertainment Telematic Module (LTM/ETM/HTM)
Integrated Center Stack (ICS/HCPM)
Steering Column Control Module (SCCM)
RADIO FREQUENCY HUB (RFH)
Occupant Classification Module (OCM)
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CAN UNITS REQUIRING EOL PROGRAMMING:
Body Computer (BCM)
Engine/Powertrain Control (ECM/PCM)
Electric Power Steering (EPS)
Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC)
Anti-Lock Brakes (ABS)
Driver door (DDM/DMM/FDM/UDM)
Heat, Ventilation and Air Conditioner (HVAC)
Transmission Control Module (TCM)
Electronic Parking Brake (EPB)
Passenger Door Module (PDM)
Occupant Restraint Module (ORC)
Entertainment Telematic Module (LTM/ETM/HTM)
Integrated Center Stack (ICS/HCPM)
Steering Column Control Module (SCCM)
RADIO FREQUENCY HUB (RFH)
Occupant Classification Module (OCM)
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CAN UNITS WITH EOL OK:
Body Computer (BCM)
Engine/Powertrain Control (ECM/PCM)
Electric Power Steering (EPS)
Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC)
Anti-Lock Brakes (ABS)
Driver door (DDM/DMM/FDM/UDM)
Heat, Ventilation and Air Conditioner (HVAC)
Transmission Control Module (TCM)
Electronic Parking Brake (EPB)
Passenger Door Module (PDM)
Occupant Restraint Module (ORC)
Integrated Center Stack (ICS/HCPM)
Steering Column Control Module (SCCM)
RADIO FREQUENCY HUB (RFH)
Occupant Classification Module (OCM)
Proxy alignment:
Writing configuration to Body Computer (BCM)...Completed successfully.
Writing configuration to Engine/Powertrain Control (ECM/PCM)...Completed successfully.
Writing configuration to Electric Power Steering (EPS)...Completed successfully.
Writing configuration to Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC)...Completed successfully.
Writing configuration to Anti-Lock Brakes (ABS)...Completed successfully.
Writing configuration to Transmission Control Module (TCM)...Completed successfully.
Writing configuration to Electronic Parking Brake (EPB)...Completed successfully.
Writing configuration to Occupant Restraint Module (ORC)...Completed successfully.
Writing configuration to Steering Column Control Module (SCCM)...Completed successfully.
Writing configuration to RADIO FREQUENCY HUB (RFH)...Completed successfully.
Writing configuration to Occupant Classification Module (OCM)...Completed successfully.
Writing configuration to Driver door (DDM/DMM/FDM/UDM)...Completed successfully.
Writing configuration to Heat, Ventilation and Air Conditioner (HVAC)...Completed successfully.
Writing configuration to Passenger Door Module (PDM)...Completed successfully.
Writing configuration to Entertainment Telematic Module (LTM/ETM/HTM)...Failed. The ECU has detected that the request contains parameter(s) with value(s) outside allowable range.
Writing configuration to Integrated Center Stack (ICS/HCPM)...Completed successfully.
Proxy alignment finished. If there are any failed writes check the failing units for errors before trying to run the alignment again.
Turn key to 'Stop' and wait for Power Latch to complete.
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Tested device: Body Control Module Delphi/Marelli MY 2015
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2/5/2022 7:26:09 PM
SINCOM:
Factory:
Serial No:
SINCOM:
Factory:
Serial No:
VIN - Original: 1C3CCCAB4FN707835
Programming date: 13/04/15
Hardware number: BCUF0C.0100
Hardware version: 01
Software number: 04440006508
Software version: E502
ECU Part Number: 68145625AI
Boot Software Identification Supplier: Magneti Marelli
Number of modules: 01
Module ID: 01
Version Module ID: BOOTBCPF04

Application Software Supplier: Magneti Marelli
Number of modules: 01
Module ID: 01
Version Module ID: CE502001

Application Data Identification Supplier: Magneti Marelli
Number of modules: 01
Module ID: 01
Version Module ID:

Active Diagnostic Status Of ECU: Running in Application mode
Gateway: Yes
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ECU Qualification:
RLS: Not set
AHBM: Not set
HUM: Not set
COM: Set
UAM: Not set
Theft Deterrent Present: Yes
Power Locks Present: Yes
Ambient Lighting Present: Yes
Approach Lamps Present: Yes
Side Repeaters Present: No
UGDO Theft Disable Present: No
RKE Present: Yes
Front Fog Lights Present: No
Tip Start Present: Yes
Remote Start Present: No
Vehicle Line: UF - Chrysler 200
Model Year: 2015
Body Style: Sedan
Country Code: MARKET 2 // United States of America
Lock the BCM: Unsuccessful
Lock the BCM: Unsuccessful
Minikrypt Key: Programmed
Body programming status:
proxy OK
Gateway: Off
Left Tail/Stop Fault Status: NO FAULTS
Right Tail/Stop Fault Status: NO FAULTS
Customer Prog Features:
Illuminated Approach Time: 30 sec
Headlamp Delay Time: 30 sec
Accessory Delay Time: 0 sec
Sound Horn on Lock: Set
Sound Horn on Remote Start: Set
Flash Lamps on Lock: Set
Headlamps on with Wipers: Set
Auto Wipers: Not set
Auto Lock: Set
Auto Unlock: Set
Driver Door First: Not set
Daytime Running Lamps: Not set
Auto High beam: Not set
One Press All Unlock Enable: Set
Battery voltage: 12.00 V
Fuel Level Primary: 999.60 mV
Fuel Level Secondary: 4939.20 mV
Outside temperature: 0.00 °C
NC Brake Switch: Open
NO Brake Switch: Closed
Brake Fluid Level Switch: Signal not available
Passenger Lock/Unlock: Not pressed
Driver Lock/Unlock: Not pressed
Liftgate Release Exterior Switch: Released
Hazard Switch: Released
Horn Switch: Released
Driver door: Closed
Front passenger door: Closed
Rear left door: Closed
Rear right door: Closed
Trunk: Closed
Hood: Closed
Ajar Configuration:
Driver Door Ajar: Digital
Driver Redundant Door Ajar Present: Not present
Passenger Door Ajar: Digital
Rear Door Ajar Present: Digital
Hood Ajar: Analog
Rear Access Point Ajar Present: Digital
Front Dome Light: Off
Rear Dome Dimming Light: Off
Ambient Lighting: Off
Trunk Lamp: Off
Courtesy/Convenient/Ambient Function: On
Ambient Dimming Switch: DEFEAT
IP Dimmer: DIM6
DRL Lamp Location(main lights): Low Beam
Emergency Stop Signaling: Disabled
Combined Rear Lighting: Present
Headlamp Shutter: Present
Follow me home: Absent
Stop/Turn Lamp Output Voltage(Turnlights): 13.00 V
Park Lamp Output Voltage(Turnlights): 13.00 V
High Beam Regulated Voltage(mainlights): 13.00 V
Low Beam Regulated Voltage(mainlights Halogen Lamp only): 13.50 V
PWM LED Tail Lamp Voltage(mainlights): 13.00 V
DRL Lamp Voltage-LT(mainlights): 10.90 V
DRL Lamp Voltage-RT(mainlights): 10.90 V
Auto Headlamp Thresholds ON: 3.33 V
Auto Headlamp Thresholds OFF: 2.55 V
Low Wash Sense: Off
Front Wiper Intermittent 1 Calibratable Value: 18.00 sec
Front Wiper Intermittent 2 Calibratable Value: 11.28 sec
Front Wiper Intermittent 3 Calibratable Value: 4.32 sec
Front Wiper Intermittent 4 Calibratable Value: 0.96 sec
Wiper Service Position Enable: Enabled
Tip Start Temporary Disable: No
Electronic Compass Module (ECM):
Remote Compass Direction: W
Remote Compass Response Error: No
Remote Compass Distortion Detected: No
Remote Compass ECU Internal Failure Flag for Micro: No
Remote Compass NVM Fault: No
Remote Compass Calibration Fault: No
Remote Compass Sensor Failure Flag: No
Remote Compass In Calibration Mode: No
Remote Compass Calibration Needed: No
Remote Compass Direction Raw: 278 Deg
Remote Compass Variance Value: 7 Deg
EC Mirror And Auto High Beam Module:
EC Mirror Response Error: No
Auto High Beam Active: No
Auto High Beam Internal Fault: No
Auto High Beam Camera Blocked: No
Auto High Beam System Aim Failure: No
Auto High Beam Aim Test Status Result: AHBM in factory aim mode
EC Mirror Status: EC Mirror Signal not available/Signal not available
EC Mirror Outside Dimming PWM Signal: 102.00 %
Auto High Beam Duty Cycle on Time: 0.00 %
Humidity Sensor Response Error: No
Humidity Sensor Internal Fault: No
Humidity Sensor Glass Temperature: 127.50 Deg.C
Humidity Sensor Air Temperature: 127.50 Deg.C
Humidity Sensor Dewpoint Temperature: 127.50 Deg.C
Humidity Sensor Relative Humidity: 127.50 % RH
Rain Sensor:
Light Rain Sensor Sensing for Twilight Condition: 0
Light Rain Sensor Wiper Request: Off
Light Rain Sensor Response Error: No
Light Rain Sensor-Rain Sensor Fault: No
Light Rain Sensor-Rain Sensor Active: No
Light Rain Sensor- Light Sensor Active: No
Light Rain Sensor- Light Sensor Fault: No
Light Rain Sensor Vehicle Line Mismatch Fault: No
Light Rain Sensor - Wiper Intermittent Level: 0
Light Rain Sensor - Wiper Position: Wiper in Park
Light Rain Sensor - Wiper Washer: Not active
Body computer configuration:
Alarm
No Remote Control Key
Blinking at CDL DISABLED
Country Code: MARKET 2 // United States of America
Vehicle Access:
Relock Timeout Value: 60 sec
Vehicle Moving Threshold: 24 km/h
Throttle Position Threshold: 12.48 Deg
Idle RPM Delay Timer: 200 ms
FOBIK-Safe Alert No Reply: Enabled
Fobik -Safe Alert Search Timeout: Enabled
FOBIK-Safe Alert On Auth System Fault: Enabled
Theft LED: Off
Central Lock: Off
Trunk Release: Off
Passenger and Rear Door Unlock: Off
Driver Door Unlock: Off
UGDO Theft Deterrent: Off
Vehicle Theft Alarm (VTA) Enable Data:
Vehicle Theft Alarm (VTA) State: Disarmed
System Lock Not Received: No
Ignition In Run or Start: Yes
Driver Door Ajar: No
Passenger Door Ajar: No
Left Rear Door Ajar: No
Right Rear Door Ajar: No
Trunk/Liftgate Ajar: No
Hood Ajar: No
Intrusion Transceiver Module (ITM) Motion Detected: No
Intrusion Transceiver Module (ITM) Fault: No
Intrusion Transceiver Module (ITM) Tilt: No
In Ship Mode: No
Vehicle Theft Alarm (VTA) Feature Enabled: Yes
Key in Ignition: Yes
Last Vehicle Theft Alarm (VTA) Trigger Cause 1:
Trigger Caused By: Left Rear Door
Odometer: 140816.00 km
Key Cycles Since: 1
Last Vehicle Theft Alarm (VTA) Trigger Cause 2:
Trigger Caused By: Unknown
Odometer: 0.00 km
Key Cycles Since: 1
Last Vehicle Theft Alarm (VTA) Trigger Cause 3:
Trigger Caused By: Unknown
Odometer: 0.00 km
Key Cycles Since: 1
Last Vehicle Theft Alarm (VTA) Trigger Cause 4:
Trigger Caused By: Unknown
Odometer: 0.00 km
Key Cycles Since: 1
Last Vehicle Theft Alarm (VTA) Trigger Cause 5:
Trigger Caused By: Unknown
Odometer: 0.00 km
Key Cycles Since: 1
Run/Start Relay: On
Run Relay: On
Run/Acc Relay: On
Stop/Start Relay: Off
Acc/Run/Start Relay: On
Last Successful Remote Start Event 1:
Remote Start Mode: Off Inhibit
Odometer: 0.00 km
Key Cycles Since: 0
Last Successful Remote Start Event 2:
Remote Start Mode: Off Inhibit
Odometer: 0.00 km
Key Cycles Since: 0
Last Successful Remote Start Event 3:
Remote Start Mode: Off Inhibit
Odometer: 0.00 km
Key Cycles Since: 0
Last Successful Remote Start Event 4:
Remote Start Mode: Off Inhibit
Odometer: 0.00 km
Key Cycles Since: 0
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FLORENCE Code: 00000060581
Proxy System configuration:
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Stop&Start: Absent
Window Express Feature//Auto Closing/Opening Configuration: Absent
Remote Trunklid Release Button Type: Release
Driver Side: Left Side
Front Fog Lights: Absent
Front Fog Lights Dropout: Absent
Rear Fog Lights Configuration: No Lights
Remote Control Type: 2 buttons
Head Lights Washer: Absent
Hill Holder System: Present
Heated Mirror: Present
Rear Wiper Motor: Absent
Logistic mode: Absent
Cornering Light/Sidemarkers: Absent
Rain Sensor: Absent
Bi-Functional Headlamp Shutter: Present
Day Running Light (DRL): Absent
DRL Turn Light Strategy/DRL dropout: Absent
WindShield Heated Wiper De-icer: Absent
Hood Ajar Switch: Absent
Sunroof: Present
Emergency Stop Signalling: Enabled
Fuel Type: Gasoline
Removable Ceiling Light: Absent
Horn Chirp Duration//D Plus Signal Source(Dart/UF): Short//ECM
Rear Parking Lights Type/Tail Lamp Type: LEDs
Additional Tail Light: Absent
Logistic Mode Manual Procedure//Emergency Switch: Absent
Heated Seats: Absent
Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) Present: Present
Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) Variant: Premium
Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) Configuration: Logic 1 - US=NHSTA, ENABLE WARNING
Side Markers: Absent
Rear Heated Window Present: Present
Battery Type: Battery Not Changed
Advanced Driver Configuration Type Button: Absent
Passive Entry Present: Present
Tire Circumference, mm: 2057 mm
Washer Fluid Level Sensor: Present
Dual Fuel Sensor: Absent
WindSheild Type Variant: IR Absorber
Engine Type: 1.3L Mjet 95hp//I4 2.4L (GAS) M-Air (E85) (ED6)(CHEROKEE/DART/UF)
Fuel Tank Capacity, liters: 60 liters
Body Type: Sedan
Automatic High Beam (AHBM) Feature: Absent
Headlamp Delay Feature: Present
Xenon Headlamp: Absent
Number Of Doors: 4 Doors
Trunk Door: Present
Trunk Door Type: Decklid
Digital Television Feature(do not set together with Back Lateral Doors Type): Disabled
Back Lateral Doors Type (do not set together with DTV feature): Hinged Doors
Cargo Area Lock Switch: Absent
Alarm system: Present
Remote control key: Absent
Siren: Absent
UltraSonic Sensor: Absent
Anti-inclination Sensor: Absent
Auto Unlock Strategy: Present
Immobilizer: Present
Max Vehicle Capacity: Undefined
Wheelbase: D-sedan/Long 3800 - 4050 B (Pro Master)
Front Turn Signal LED: Absent
Rear LED Turn Signals: Absent
Global Windows Down: Absent
Electro Chromatic Mirror: Absent
Keyless Go: Present
Relock Strategy: Absent
Cooled Seats: Absent
Speedometer Tolerance, %: 0 %
Front Passenger Airbag Disable Switch Via Menu: Not Active
Gear Shift Indicator: Absent
Heated Washer Nozzle: Absent
Easy Entry Menu//Buzzer Type(Dart/UF): Absent//Internal
Service Coupon Number: 0
Distance To Service, km: 0 km
Head Lights Levelling: Absent
Side Illumination: Absent
Instrument Panel Cluster Internal Light Sensor: Absent
Tachometer Present: Absent
CM Rif: Undefined
Heater Ventillation and AC, Type: Manual
Parking Heater: Absent
Automatic Recirculation: Present
Anti-Frost Sensor: Present
Anti-Pollution Sensor: Absent
Anti-Fog Humidity Sensor: Absent
PTC Heater: Absent
Max Defrost Strategy: Independent Mix/7 FLOW MODES
Rear Climate Control: Absent
Auto-On Comfort: Absent
Integrated Climate Touchscreen: Absent
Front Driver Airbag: Absent
Front Passenger Airbag: Absent
Left Window Curtain Airbag: Absent
Right Window Curtain Airbag: Absent
Driver Knee Airbag: Absent
Passenger Knee Airbag: Absent
Left Seat Airbag: Absent
Right Seat Airbag: Absent
Rear Seat Airbag: Absent
Front Passenger Airbag Disable Switch: Absent
Seat Belt Reminder (SBR) Logic: NHTSA
Lateral Pressure Sensor: Absent
Lateral B Pillar Sensor: Absent
Lateral C pillar Sensor: Absent
Lateral D Pillar Sensor: Absent
Electronic Pedestrian Protection (EPPM): Absent
Front Driver Pretensioner: Absent
Front Lateral Passenger Pretensioner: Absent
Front Central Passenger Pretensioner: Absent
Rear Lateral Passengers Pretensioner Present: Absent
Rear Central Passenger Pretensioner: Absent
Driver Buckle Switch Pretensioner: Absent
Front passenger Buckle Switch Pretensioner: Absent
Rear Lateral Passengers Buckle Switch pretensioner Present: Absent
Rear Central passenger Buckle Switch Pretensioner: Absent
Driver Buckle Switch: Absent
Front Passenger Buckle Switch: Absent
Rear Lateral Passenger Buckle Switches Present: Absent
Rear Central Passenger Buckle Switch: Absent
Front Central Buckle Switch: Absent
Seat Belt Reminder (SBR) Unit Present: Absent
Front Lateral Passenger Presence Detection: Absent
Front Central Passenger Presence Detection: Absent
Front Passenger Presence Detector (PPD) Type: Weight Sensor
Rear Passenger Presence Detection (PPD): Absent
Rear Passenger Presence Detector (PPD) Type: Weight Sensor
Driver Seat Track Position: Absent
Passenger Seat Track Position: Absent
Driver Active Head Restraints: Absent
Passenger Active Head Restraints: Absent
Front Crash Sensor: Absent
Front Driver Anchor Pretensioner: Absent
Front Lateral Passenger Anchor Pretensioner: Absent
Rollover Sensor: Absent
Hood Switch Type: Ajar Not Diagnosed
Rear View Camera: Present
Adaptive Cruise Control Type: Absent
Forward Collision Mitigation Type: Absent
Low Speed Collision Mitigation: Absent
Park With Stop: Absent
Side Distance Warning/Blind spot detection: Absent
Electronic Brake System Type Variant: VDC + Hill Holder + ASR
Hill descent control: Absent
Selector Logic Type: Logic 1 - NOT STORED, SPORT MODALITY
Brake Type Variant: Caliper/Caliper//Big(GIULIA)//NAFTA & Non-AMS EU AWD/4x4(CHEROKEE)
Steering Ratio Rack Pinion Type: 54 C Factor(linked to suspension)(CHEROKEE)//15.47 (AWD Trailhawk) (Compass/Renegade)
Paddle Shift: Absent
Track Width Variant: Undefined
Drive Style Selector: Absent
Dynamic Steering Torque (DST) Presence: Absent
Drive Selector Type: Absent
Suspension Configuration Rear: Type AWD (GIULIA)//Touring(CHEROKEE)
Suspension Configuration Front: Type AWD (GIULIA)//Touring(CHEROKEE)//Off-road(COMPASS)
Configuration Family: Undefined
Parking Brake Type: EPB Cable Puller
Quick Keylock: Not Active
Trunk Pressure Type: Double Pressure
Drive Type Variant: Four-Wheel Drive
Intelligent Alternator Module (IAM) Unit: Absent
Cruise control: Present
Speed Limiter: Absent
Alternator Class: Undefined
Water in Fuel Sensor: Absent
Speed Limiter Threshold: Undefined
Blow By Heater: Absent
Final Drive Ratio: 3929//3.734 (EP2/ATX)(CHEROKEE)//3.833(COMPASS)
Fuel Heater: Absent
DPF Regeneration On Demand: Absent
Ignition Pre Start Logic: Disabled
Shifter Type Variant: 5-position Rotary Eshifter PRNDL
Tow Haul Switch: Absent
Backup Vehicle Start: Absent
Power Seats: Absent
Axle Ratio: 3734
Transfer Case Low Ratio: 0
Transfer Case High Ratio: No Tcase
Transmission Model: 7HDT300//9HP48/93TE 1 spd PTU (DFH)(CHEROKEE)
Transmission Type: ATX
Electronic Range Select (ERS)/Autostick Presence: Autostick present
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Intelligent Speed Function: Absent
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SWSM: Absent
Glove Box Lock: Absent
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Galileo: Absent
BeiDou: Absent
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Blind Spot Type: Normal
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Seat Material Rear: Absent
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Passenger Power Headrest: Absent
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Lock With Engine ON Warning: Absent
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Forward Facing Camera: Absent
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Intelligent Speed Function Menu: Absent
LKA Mode Latch: Not Latched
Damping Tuning Set: None
Tilt Telescope Column: Absent
Auto Vehicle Hold: Absent
Front Axle Disconnect: Absent
TPMS Regulation Configuration: Logic 1 - NHTSA Enable Warning
Full Size Matching Spare: Absent
RCU LIN Module: Absent
Speedometer Range, km/h: 0 km/h
Interior Monitoring Camera: Absent
Wizard Feature: OFF
FOA Present: Absent
Passive Entry Type: 2 doors PE
Door Ambient Lighting: Absent
Radio Display Type: 8.4'' 1024x768
Mute on Reverse Enable: Disabled
LOT Function: Disabled
TIPL Function: Disabled
SCRM HMI Logic: Absent
Inadvertent Light PWM Enable: Disabled
Inadvertent Light 2 PWM Enable: Disabled
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Rear Lights Diagnosis: Disabled
Front Lights PWM Enable: Disabled
Rear Lights PWM Enable: Disabled
Load Compartment Doors Unlock: Absent
Key-In Warning Trigger: Only Driver Door
Driver Swivel Seat: Absent
Passenger Swivel Seat: Absent
Front Central Buckle Switch Pretensioner: Absent
Auto-Closing Time, sec: 0 sec
Headlamp Type: Type 1
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Rear Door Left Switch Present: Absent
ECall Button Variant: SOS Button
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High Voltage Battery Capacity: Undefined
Heater Ventillation and AC (HVAC) Mode Type: No Trimode
Traffic Sign Offset Menu: Absent
Light Fade PWM Enable: Absent
Roof Height: Height 1
Mirrors Type: Manual
Roll-Up Door: Absent
Backup Alarm: Not Configurable
UConnect 7 active: Present

hey spec,

just reading through your bcm config again and noticed your radio type set to mopar brand. is that original from your 5" radio or was that changed when you upgraded to the 8.4 RA4? also noticed your audio type is set to premium CAN which makes me believe you also have the alpine system, could you confirm? thirdly your speaker config is set as 6 speaker base? seems to be conflicting. I should dump my bcm config here as well. it would help to compare both of our configs and point the differences. unfortunately my config is not virgin as I've modified and saved without backups before alfaobd had an option to backup a dedicated file and we relied only on change logs...

regarding our b2204 ecu config mismatch code here is a description,

"The Radio Frequency Hub (RF-Hub) must be configured for various parameters such as model year and vehicle line, after a service replacement. The RF-Hub checks for the proper configuration by comparing the values stored to those sent out on the serial data bus. The repair of this fault does not involve any external circuitry and centers on verifying the module is configured correctly. The RF-Hub checks the feature configuration at power up during the initialization process, and continuously through the ignition cycle. This Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) sets when the RF-Hub detects a mismatch of Model Year, vehicle line, body style or market country between the current vehicle configuration of the module and the information sent out on the CAN bus. Once set, this DTC is latched for the entire ignition cycle."

why would a module dealing with the keys, alarm, push button start interfere with us getting a sweet updated radio option? I don't know... but the description of the fault code definitely peaks my interest...

think I'll be getting a raspberry pi for valentines day along with a CANBUS sniffer add on. if I can isolate the radio messages on the bus lines and compare them with the RA4 vs UAQ that I have it'll be a start to reverse engineering this whole mess.

my theory is if I can somehow manage to pick out the differences between the messages each radio sends out I can either;
1) translate said messages into a legacy language our older bcms understand
2) perhaps we can fool the car into thinking the RA4 is still in the car whilst having the UAQ or UAA in it's place all the while maintaining our valid proxy configs...

food for thought for everyone reading is how come these units are being retrofitted in chargers, challengers,vipers,rams,jeeps,300's but our 200 is the one having serious issues. even older vehicles than the entire 200 UF product life cycle is being able to install a 4C radio into it. (meaning pre 2015)

in my personal opinion I believe it is due to the fact our 200's are more closely related to the Dodge Dart and Dodge Avenger. they're our cousins.. especially the dart. lets remember the dart, avenger, even the journey are all older RB5 based vehicles. it's my assumption that engineers created our 200 with the modern at the time RA4 using the same Mickey Mouse strategy we're trying to create for our Uconnect 4's
 

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hey spec,

just reading through your bcm config again and noticed your radio type set to mopar brand. is that original from your 5" radio or was that changed when you upgraded to the 8.4 RA4? also noticed your audio type is set to premium CAN which makes me believe you also have the alpine system, could you confirm? thirdly your speaker config is set as 6 speaker base? seems to be conflicting. I should dump my bcm config here as well. it would help to compare both of our configs and point the differences. unfortunately my config is not virgin as I've modified and saved without backups before alfaobd had an option to backup a dedicated file and we relied only on change logs...

regarding our b2204 ecu config mismatch code here is a description,

"The Radio Frequency Hub (RF-Hub) must be configured for various parameters such as model year and vehicle line, after a service replacement. The RF-Hub checks for the proper configuration by comparing the values stored to those sent out on the serial data bus. The repair of this fault does not involve any external circuitry and centers on verifying the module is configured correctly. The RF-Hub checks the feature configuration at power up during the initialization process, and continuously through the ignition cycle. This Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) sets when the RF-Hub detects a mismatch of Model Year, vehicle line, body style or market country between the current vehicle configuration of the module and the information sent out on the CAN bus. Once set, this DTC is latched for the entire ignition cycle."

why would a module dealing with the keys, alarm, push button start interfere with us getting a sweet updated radio option? I don't know... but the description of the fault code definitely peaks my interest...

think I'll be getting a raspberry pi for valentines day along with a CANBUS sniffer add on. if I can isolate the radio messages on the bus lines and compare them with the RA4 vs UAQ that I have it'll be a start to reverse engineering this whole mess.

my theory is if I can somehow manage to pick out the differences between the messages each radio sends out I can either;
1) translate said messages into a legacy language our older bcms understand
2) perhaps we can fool the car into thinking the RA4 is still in the car whilst having the UAQ or UAA in it's place all the while maintaining our valid proxy configs...

food for thought for everyone reading is how come these units are being retrofitted in chargers, challengers,vipers,rams,jeeps,300's but our 200 is the one having serious issues. even older vehicles than the entire 200 UF product life cycle is being able to install a 4C radio into it. (meaning pre 2015)

in my personal opinion I believe it is due to the fact our 200's are more closely related to the Dodge Dart and Dodge Avenger. they're our cousins.. especially the dart. lets remember the dart, avenger, even the journey are all older RB5 based vehicles. it's my assumption that engineers created our 200 with the modern at the time RA4 using the same Mickey Mouse strategy we're trying to create for our Uconnect 4's
No I changed the radio setting to Mopar, trying to make the new 4c work. My car was originally set to R2 Low I believe (this was even the case with the 8.4 inch uconnect 3 I added). Honestly for the speaker questions, I’m not even sure about the speaker system (think it’s just base) but yes there are 6 speakers. I’ll post my window sticker below if that helps.

And also based on that description, are you saying in that there is no harness needed in order to make the radios fully function? If so, how do you think we can make this work because I am all out of ideas now. I’m calling up lots of different aftermarket/tech radio companies asking for advice or seeing if they do this service. And I agree, a module dealing with keys, push button start, etc. that is stopping us from upgrading these radios does seem very stupid. But like we said before, all these modules in the car speak to each other and none can miscommunicate.

Are you familiar with this type of coding because I am not lol. I was also maybe thinking of trying the WiTech tool, but I don’t even think I am authorized to use that. I’m going to do more research and call more companies.

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I believe that the Dart (PF), 200 (UF), Cherokee (KL) and Pacifica (RU) all have similar CAN architecture. The Pacifica chassis shows a lot of 200 thinking. The 200 was a technology 'springboard' to build the Pacifica.
They adapted the PROXI code to the models they were keeping and let the orphans expire.
(The Avenger (JS) is on the ancient Sebring/200 platform and I don't think is related).
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We can't just wipe the 'learned' identity (config) of a module in the shop. I suppose that this is another layer of 'anti-theft' protection for 'hot' parts.
With proof and documentation of ownership, a facility like UR can 'wipe' the core config so that the module can re-learn who it is after being plugged into its new family.
 

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I believe that the Dart (PF), 200 (UF), Cherokee (KL) and Pacifica (RU) all have similar CAN architecture. The Pacifica chassis shows a lot of 200 thinking. The 200 was a technology 'springboard' to build the Pacifica.
They adapted the PROXI code to the models they were keeping and let the orphans expire.
(The Avenger (JS) is on the ancient Sebring/200 platform and I don't think is related).
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We can't just wipe the 'learned' identity (config) of a module in the shop. I suppose that this is another layer of 'anti-theft' protection for 'hot' parts.
With proof and documentation of ownership, a facility like UR can 'wipe' the core config so that the module can re-learn who it is after being plugged into its new family.
Thanks for the correction about the avenger!

And yes you are correct as well about not being able to make modules appear new again. It's true for instrument clusters on my BMW at least, not being able to program a used cluster with higher miles than the vehicle chasis. The BMW sometimes remove and solder new chips on the instrument clusters to help their causes.

I think the best course of action for the moment is to find as much info on the 200 vs Cherokee as possible. Find out where those differences lie in parts or part revisions...

Does anyone know where the BCM is actually located on our vehicle? Google doesn't seem to be of much help.
 

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No I changed the radio setting to Mopar, trying to make the new 4c work. My car was originally set to R2 Low I believe (this was even the case with the 8.4 inch uconnect 3 I added). Honestly for the speaker questions, I’m not even sure about the speaker system (think it’s just base) but yes there are 6 speakers. I’ll post my window sticker below if that helps.

And also based on that description, are you saying in that there is no harness needed in order to make the radios fully function? If so, how do you think we can make this work because I am all out of ideas now. I’m calling up lots of different aftermarket/tech radio companies asking for advice or seeing if they do this service. And I agree, a module dealing with keys, push button start, etc. that is stopping us from upgrading these radios does seem very stupid. But like we said before, all these modules in the car speak to each other and none can miscommunicate.

Are you familiar with this type of coding because I am not lol. I was also maybe thinking of trying the WiTech tool, but I don’t even think I am authorized to use that. I’m going to do more research and call more companies.

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hey spec thanks for the window sticker that's a massive help and appreciated. yes you have the 6 speaker base audio option and i have a funny feeling that's why your sound works and mine doesn't.

to my knowledge the uconnect radio has its own internal amplifier that can run the base speakers or can send low level inputs to an external amp for the alpine optioned vehicles. at the moment im jealous 😁

yes i believe the uconnect system can be tricked... the harness is just a pretty and packaged version of what we'll be trying to do. A box with a microprocessor like device catching all databus traffic, filtered for the seat heaters. Then the individual command translated and reinjected back into the data stream.

thinking aloud for instance, our ECU config mismatch code description says the RF HUB checks the modules on start up and continuously during the drive cycle. if we can intercept the UAQ identifier code and inject the familiar RA4 while our UAQ's are plugged in, the car should know no difference, right?

actually starting the think about about what you've said ,"a module dealing with keys, push button start, etc. that is stopping us from upgrading these radios does seem very stupid. But like we said before, all these modules in the car speak to each other and none can miscommunicate." imagine if the code was because of the seat heaters. wouldn't even doubt it anymore hahahah. we need to call Chrysler engineering and make them spill the beans :cool:

i think for now i'm going to keep looking for the BCM location and dig a bit into the differences between cherokee and 200.

as for witech concern witech should be usable with a j2534 passthru device as per the right to repair laws. never tried it myself but for years i've been meaning to invest in a passthru so i can do my own software updates. we might get lucky with witech. curious to see results if you manage to get it going.
 

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hey guys,

according to this website Mopar Connection Repair Kit and comparing a 2016 200 to a 2016 cherokee BCM module pinnouts. allegedly our bcm are behind our drivers seat knee bolsters but be careful theres an airbag there. unfortunately it appears the pinnouts are different. lot more occupied pins on the jeep version. Didn't bother me at first until i got to one of the connectors where one the the data lines are not on the same pin as the 200 version and thats a show stopper. even things like brake light controls and interior lighting switch outputs are different and i'd imagine thats a show stopper for all of us as well. Pin counts on the plugs are the same but the connectors are shaped slightly different. not sure where to go with this other than trying to reverse engineer the canbus traffic
 

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hey guys,

according to this website Mopar Connection Repair Kit and comparing a 2016 200 to a 2016 cherokee BCM module pinnouts. allegedly our bcm are behind our drivers seat knee bolsters but be careful theres an airbag there. unfortunately it appears the pinnouts are different. lot more occupied pins on the jeep version. Didn't bother me at first until i got to one of the connectors where one the the data lines are not on the same pin as the 200 version and thats a show stopper. even things like brake light controls and interior lighting switch outputs are different and i'd imagine thats a show stopper for all of us as well. Pin counts on the plugs are the same but the connectors are shaped slightly different. not sure where to go with this other than trying to reverse engineer the canbus traffic
Yeah man be careful with that. Honestly, I don’t think it’s worth doing all that for the 4C uconnect. I rather get an aftermarket at that point to get the CarPlay. But anyways I spoke to infotainment.com today (by phone) and I asked the rep if there was any type of harness to make the uconnect 4c work with our cars, and he said unfortunately no (as expected). I also asked if I ship the radio out to them would they be able to do anything. Once again, no. They said they would only be able to program a radio if you buy the set from them (of course they would say that) and even then, they cannot program a radio to work with a 200 because of the different BCMs I think. I forgot the exact reason but it was on the lines of the same reasons we know why it won’t work.

And fyi- the rep said they don’t program the radios from new, rather they just align the radios to work with the new car it will be placed in and They do this by matching the VINs.

so yes, the only way I believe to make these radios work would be to intercept the code somehow and make it spit out familiar code for our cars.

I don’t know at this point… what do you guys think?

i may try to call Chrysler and beg them for advice haha. Either that or I get an aftermarket eventually.
 

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Yeah man be careful with that. Honestly, I don’t think it’s worth doing all that for the 4C uconnect. I rather get an aftermarket at that point to get the CarPlay. But anyways I spoke to infotainment.com today (by phone) and I asked the rep if there was any type of harness to make the uconnect 4c work with our cars, and he said unfortunately no (as expected). I also asked if I ship the radio out to them would they be able to do anything. Once again, no. They said they would only be able to program a radio if you buy the set from them (of course they would say that) and even then, they cannot program a radio to work with a 200 because of the different BCMs I think. I forgot the exact reason but it was on the lines of the same reasons we know why it won’t work.

And fyi- the rep said they don’t program the radios from new, rather they just align the radios to work with the new car it will be placed in and They do this by matching the VINs.

so yes, the only way I believe to make these radios work would be to intercept the code somehow and make it spit out familiar code for our cars.

I don’t know at this point… what do you guys think?

i may try to call Chrysler and beg them for advice haha. Either that or I get an aftermarket eventually.
Honestly, I say hang your hat on a aftermarket version..
I may very well trade the 200 for an f150. Just getting older now and would rather see payments on a vehicle that will take me into my 30's if not beyond. The canbus network sniffing and injection will be a cool project.. I've seen a couple spreadsheets identifying the canbus module identifiers on a Cherokee. But would be hard to implement this on our 200's especially because cross platform.. I feel tempted to try the retrofit harness for the Rams thinking it will clear the ecu config mismatch error on our 200's but feel this is a lost cause. The architecture of both vehicles (Cherokee vs 200) is just a smidge too different for someone without a coding or university background...

There's a couple forums with more information and I'm willing to link them in the AM.

Waiting for my wife today, I tried the program multiecuscan which would allow me to input a custom proxi in a hexadecimal format like our European compadres have been doing on alfa's, Maserati's, and Fiat's but unfortunately identifying the car as a European spec jeep Cherokee did not work.(This program is only for Europe based FCA vehicles.)
Unfortunately it doesn't seem that our BCM identifier made it to Europe. My only hope is that alfaOBD adopts a hexidec input to a custom proxi with compatability to North american vehicles. Allowing us to inject a hexidecimal based proxi config to our bcm it wouldn't matter what options where available in the, "car configuration change" UI menu in alfaOBD. Not bashing alfaOBD I love the software (and use it frequently) especially because it's one guy I believe developing the app I just lack the knowledge to do better than the app developer. 🤷‍♂️

Hopes are not high... But I read the the boss audio 9 or 10" latest headunit is a gold mine and
cheap! (Supporting android auto and carplay sub $500 CAD) personally I've got an alpine 9 ilx- 259 in my BMW and it works flawlessly for Android auto and carplay.

But I'd imagine you'd also need many different harness adapters and interfaces to make it work with our very digitally based 200's

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Honestly, I say hang your hat on a aftermarket version..
I may very well trade the 200 for an f150. Just getting older now and would rather see payments on a vehicle that will take me into my 30's if not beyond. The canbus network sniffing and injection will be a cool project.. I've seen a couple spreadsheets identifying the canbus module identifiers on a Cherokee. But would be hard to implement this on our 200's especially because cross platform.. I feel tempted to try the retrofit harness for the Rams thinking it will clear the ecu config mismatch error on our 200's but feel this is a lost cause. The architecture of both vehicles (Cherokee vs 200) is just a smidge too different for someone without a coding or university background...

There's a couple forums with more information and I'm willing to link them in the AM.

Waiting for my wife today, I tried the program multiecuscan which would allow me to input a custom proxi in a hexadecimal format like our European compadres have been doing on alfa's, Maserati's, and Fiat's but unfortunately identifying the car as a European spec jeep Cherokee did not work.(This program is only for Europe based FCA vehicles.)
Unfortunately it doesn't seem that our BCM identifier made it to Europe. My only hope is that alfaOBD adopts a hexidec input to a custom proxi with compatability to North american vehicles. Allowing us to inject a hexidecimal based proxi config to our bcm it wouldn't matter what options where available in the, "car configuration change" UI menu in alfaOBD. Not bashing alfaOBD I love the software (and use it frequently) especially because it's one guy I believe developing the app I just lack the knowledge to do better than the app developer. 🤷‍♂️

Hopes are not high... But I read the the boss audio 9 or 10" latest headunit is a gold mine and
cheap! (Supporting android auto and carplay sub $500 CAD) personally I've got an alpine 9 ilx- 259 in my BMW and it works flawlessly for Android auto and carplay.

But I'd imagine you'd also need many different harness adapters and interfaces to make it work with our very digitally based 200's

Regards,
Keven
Yeah I’m probably going to end up returning this radio and buying an aftermarket. And the harness idea would not be bad to give a shot, but in my opinion, even if it did work, the harness costs $170 (without tax and shipping) so what’s even the point then. $200+ dollars for a harness to make an already expensive radio work? Not worth it in my opinion.

And to be honest, an F150 instead of a 200 sounds pretty sweet to me.

I would love to play around with the coding and everything, just do not have enough time to. So maybe someone will figure this out soon, but honestly by the time they do, I see the 200s being ancient (more than they may seem already).

And appreciate the radio suggestions. Best of luck in the future!
 

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Hi guys
I was able to install uconnect 8.4 on my car and it works perfectly
I read the topic, but because my language is not English, I could not understand your problem.
can i help you؟
Describe your problem to me.
 

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Hi guys
I was able to install uconnect 8.4 on my car and it works perfectly
I read the topic, but because my language is not English, I could not understand your problem.
can i help you؟
Describe your problem to me.
Hi friend. Our problem has been the fact that we cannot install the UConnect 4C infotainment system in the Chrysler 200s. After a lot of research and trial and error ( as you can see in this forum), we all gave up :(.

You said you installed Uconnect 8.4 inside your Chrysler 200, are you referring to the Uconnect 4C 8.4 inch radio or the Uconnect 3 8.4. Inch radio. The Uconnect 3 is the version that is compatible with our cars and that would mean the Uconnect 4C is the one we want, but is not compatible (the 4C is also the one with Apple CarPlay and Android Auto).

and it would also be VERY helpful if you can take a picture and include it in your reply. Thanks again.
 

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I have installed version 3 and the telematics module had a fault at first. I did a factory reset several times, but it didn't help. I noticed that in the configuration section of the car, there are options about it, such as the type of Uconnect, the type of audio, the number of speakers, etc. By testing them separately, I was able to make the settings in such a way that the module fault is solved.
After that, I realized that the cswm module has an error. I went to the cswm status menu and in terms of hardware, I found that my car has seat heaters that were not active in the previous Uconnect, then I reactivated them in the car configuration and the cswm problem was also solved. However, now I have a fault in the IPC module and everything I did was useless. Because I have replaced the ipc with a 7-inch version.
Tell me what should I send you a picture of? And finally, did you manage to write a sales code for your car? What was XXXYZZZ?
 

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UPDATE:
I think I found the solution to add the sales code.
There is XXX and Y value in uconnect system status alfaobd.
I type 00EEXBM for example (remote start sales code) and start, program is complete !!
But I don't know how to test it !
I need a sales code can be test.
 
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