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I just finished installing new hubs on my 2015 200 because they were going out, got in it, everything was fine, backed out of the shop and drove out to the road to go on a test drive and it shifted up to 4th gear and then it felt like it almost slipped and then the ABS and Service Transmission lights came on, pulled over, put it in park, turned it off and back on and everything was back to normal, got out to the main road and got it up to 65 and all the way to 9th gear, and about 2 miles down the road the speedometer dropped to zero and the Service PB, Trans, and ABS all came on again, car runs and drives, just no speedo and a little stiff in the steering. I’ve taken the front tires off again and inspected all of my wiring to my abs sensors and everything is good, anyone have any experience with this?
 

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Did you by any chance disconnect the battery while servicing the hubs? The symptoms you are describing are very common in the Chrysler and Jeep lines of cars. It appears to be a computer issue and most likely, you can't fix it. The dealer may have to reflash various modules to get it back to normal. Or, if it is the original battery, it may be just a coincidence and it is beginning to fail.
 

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Worries me that the hubs failed on a car that new. I've had Mopars as long as 308K miles and 17 years, never had a hub fail. Nor on my 92 Dakota, which has 240K on it.
 

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So if you experienced over 250K miles with no replacement on 3 front wheel drive cars, you should not be concerned if one failed at 75K? I consider that WAY too early.
 

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So if you experienced over 250K miles with no replacement on 3 front wheel drive cars, you should not be concerned if one failed at 75K? I consider that WAY too early.
On the older cars sure. My son's 20 year old Neon has the original wheel bearings and although the mileage is low for it's year - 125K miles, I would expect it to go at least few more years before it needs wheel bearings, shorter if I don't replace the front struts soon - they aren't that bad, just a little bit stiff.

Moog agrees with what I am saying about how long wheel bearings typically last:

"Wheel bearings have an average lifespan of 136,000 to 160,000 km (approximately 85,000 to 100,000 miles). This is only a rule of thumb though, the actual lifespan of a wheel bearing depends on the quality of the wheel bearing and the operating conditions."

https://www.moogparts.eu/blog/how-long-wheel-bearings-last.html

I am not young anymore and have owned a bunch of vehicles so get what you are saying but I think things have changed. New cars are different - or at least that is my observation anyway.
 

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So if you experienced over 250K miles with no replacement on 3 front wheel drive cars, you should not be concerned if one failed at 75K? I consider that WAY too early.
No two vehicles and their components are the same.
I had one wheel bearing replaced at around 80K miles. Under warranty I might add. Was done in under 2 hours and no charge.
The other is fine, so far with current mileage at 97K.
Can't compare to other cars because no two cars have the exact same suspension geometry and engineering.
 

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A 92 and a 93 Daytona do. I've owned both. The 92 went 308K miles. The 93 went 257K miles. Neither ever failed. Have also owned an 85 and an 84 Daytona, 157K and 160K miles, respectively. Neither ever failed.

Have owned 4 other FWD cars, two of them Chrysler products, no bearing failures ever. That's why I'm surprised that it's not shocking to have a failure at 75K miles.
 

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A 92 and a 93 Daytona do. I've owned both. The 92 went 308K miles. The 93 went 257K miles. Neither ever failed. Have also owned an 85 and an 84 Daytona, 157K and 160K miles, respectively. Neither ever failed.

Have owned 4 other FWD cars, two of them Chrysler products, no bearing failures ever. That's why I'm surprised that it's not shocking to have a failure at 75K miles.
I have owned a few cars myself - that list below is incomplete, I forgot a few more:
https://www.200forums.com/forum/17-off-topic-discussion/8329-age-previous-vehicles-7.html

...and I can understand why you might think that's how they all are - or all Mopars based on your own experience, but the fact remains that every vehicle is different as fltru103 explained, and Moog covered it best, it is a part that wears out and typically it's between 85-100K miles
 

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Getting away from front wheel bearings... and back to the ABS, speedometer, transmission problem...
Because the ABS speed sensor WAS removed and reinstalled during the wheel bearing replacement and because the problem happened JUST AFTER that repair... I would be looking at a damaged/bad speed sensor...

Depending on the make and model of cars speed sensors can cause many ABS/Speedometer/and transmission problems...They can be used to tell the transmission what the speed (MPH) and what the output RPM of the transmission is...If the TCM/PCM can't "see" the pulses you'll get a transmission error....The Speedometer may also rely on that specific sensor's pulses....and definitely the ABS WILL not function correctly as it can't "see" and compare the speed (pulses) of all four wheels and ABS will be disabled and the ABS light will come on....

Some cars will use an "output" speed sensor mounted on the transmission for some of those functions (like in KIAs and Hyundais)...I'm not sure what FIAT/Chrysler uses for what functions...
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Wheel hubs definitely do go out way earlier than that, especially if they are not engineered properly in the design of the car. Grand Ams were notorious for wheel hub/bearings going out (among other things). In the 160k miles that I had my Grand Am, I replaced the front hubs 3 times - they averaged about 40-50k miles each. After the first time I realized that it wasn't worth my time to do it (took almost a full day), and had a shop do it for me. Major pain in the A without a lift.
 
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