[1350S]

I love my 2015 Pentastar Chrysler 200 S, its a rocket ship, I'm certain it is quicker than my 2013 Hemi Charger RT I owned, especially when I run E-85. I would like to boosted it but a supercharger is a no go with the way they did the engine mount and accessory drive. The Cadillac 3.6 is very similar to the Pentastar and they did a twin turbo version called the LF3 and LF4 that uses an air to water intercooler and is 460 HP!

The special designed intake manifold/intercooler would be very difficult to adapt to the Pentastar but the turbos might actually bolt up to the Pentastar heads with slight modification, at that point an air to water or air to air intercooler could be used with bigger injectors and then tune it with HP Tuners.

 

[travman]

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/news/a30625/pentastar-turbo-hemi-pricing/

FCA has been planning on doing this for a few years now. We should be seeing this in a year or two on the next Charger. As far as the 200, there simply isn't enough room in the engine bay for this without major hood modifications. We had discussed this a few years ago and have come to the conclusion that the transmission and drive train couldn't handle this much power.

 

[1350S]

 

[1350S]

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/news/a30625/pentastar-turbo-hemi-pricing/

FCA has been planning on doing this for a few years now. We should be seeing this in a year or two on the next Charger. As far as the 200, there simply isn't enough room in the engine bay for this without major hood modifications. We had discussed this a few years ago and have come to the conclusion that the transmission and drive train couldn't handle this much power.

The stock intake manifold could be used and the turbos are very tight to the heads, then minor tubing to the inter cooler, I’m friends with a lot of mechanics at the Dodge dealership and they said the trans is very robust, they have never replaced one due to breakage, mainly programming issues and people complaining how hard it shifts, now it can be tuned with HP Tuners, mine shifts hard as well and it is no worse than a GM 4L60E with a shift kit.

 

[travman]

The stock intake manifold could be used and the turbos are very tight to the heads, then minor tubing to the inter cooler, I’m friends with a lot of mechanics at the Dodge dealership and they said the trans is very robust, they have never replaced one due to breakage, mainly programming issues and people complaining how hard it shifts, now it can be tuned with HP Tuners, mine shifts hard as well and it is no worse than a GM 4L60E with a shift kit.

Would be an interesting read if someone does this on the 200. I would be curious on how the car holds up and how much quicker it would go.

 

[1350S]

Another thing that I have been researching is the twin turbo Maserati Ghibli, with the Chrysler 3.0 M157 block. I wonder what it would take to install one of these engines in the 200, Ha!

 

[Black Knight]

Another thing that I have been researching is the twin turbo Maserati Ghibli, with the Chrysler 3.0 M157 block. I wonder what it would take to install one of these engines in the 200, Ha!

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[Tyler-98-W68]

Less talk more do.........Many people have talked about FI, if you are posting about this, make it happen.

 

[Sleeper200c]

...And there is no twin torbo v-6 in Chryslers future. A new straight compact 6 is in the works that will come nat aspirated, single, and twin turbo. I believe FCA is calling it the "hurricane" for now. supposed too first appear in jeeps then over too the charger line. Look it up theres some info out there. that would make yours the ONLY 3.6 turbo!! Go for it!

 

[Sleeper200c]

Sorry, it's the "tornado". It was a long day

 

[1350S]

Less talk more do.........Many people have talked about FI, if you are posting about this, make it happen.

I'd rather have the genius ideas and you be the Guinea Pig, after all this is a Chrysler 200 Forum!

 

[Tyler-98-W68]

I'd rather have the genius ideas and you be the Guinea Pig, after all this is a Chrysler 200 Forum!

Well I have been since no one else has modified the Pentastar 3.2L except me. Also introduced this community to a tuner who really knows what they are doing and have my VVT Cams tuned.

Sorry to break it to you pal but your 200 is nearly all cherokee parts, I just happen to drive a lifted 200. What you will see from my limited posts is that I have substance and no just babbling about "my car is such a rocket ship ect" I stick to realistic facts and information for people. You are the one talking big so make it happen. I've already done lots for the cherokee community including being the one to prove they could be tuned when they "weren't supported" Oh and FYI a mid 14 second car is not a "rocket ship" in terms of speed. Its simply a little faster than most sporty cars.

 

[1350S]

I'd rather have the genius ideas and you be the Guinea Pig, after all this is a Chrysler 200 Forum!

Well I have been since no one else has modified the Pentastar 3.2L except me. Also introduced this community to a tuner who really knows what they are doing and have my VVT Cams tuned.

Sorry to break it to you pal but your 200 is nearly all cherokee parts, I just happen to drive a lifted 200. What you will see from my limited posts is that I have substance and no just babbling about "my car is such a rocket ship ect" I stick to realistic facts and information for people. You are the one talking big so make it happen. I've already done lots for the cherokee community including being the one to prove they could be tuned when they "weren't supported" Oh and FYI a mid 14 second car is not a "rocket ship" in terms of speed. Its simply a little faster than most sporty cars.

Your Awesome!

 

[Black Knight]

Tyler-98-W68 I am glad you joined. It's great to see someone doing something with a V6 equipped Alfa Romeo Dodge Dart platform (I don't recall the platform name or have time to look it up) - 15+ 200, Cherokee, Dart, new Compass (maybe?) and probably one other I missed that's sold here and can't think of right now.

The following is directed to anyone reading this not any one person - I agree words are cheap vs. doing etc.. but lets all keep it civil, we don't want this to become like a typical enthusiast vehicle form where people flame each other etc... No problem debating things but let's keep it civil.

This forum is for people with an interest in the Chrysler 200 or similar vehicles so even if you never buy or even drive one, the forum is open to all.

 

[Black Knight]

I love my 2015 Pentastar Chrysler 200 S, its a rocket ship, I'm certain it is quicker than my 2013 Hemi Charger RT I owned, especially when I run E-85.

I am on my 3rd Chrysler 200. The 200 is much quicker than people give it credit for. I owned a 2006 Chrysler 300C with the 5.7 Hemi - wife's car. It was slower than my 13' 200 S at the time, not just an opinion, it was a tested fact - at least until higher speeds without going into detail.

https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2011/09/review-2012-chrysler-200-touring-take-two/

It's a great car and a great engine - underrated and unrecognized by most.

All that schtuff aside, it would be nice to hear from someone that actually FI this thing, although I wouldn't do it.

 

[lightsout190]

It's an interesting idea, but I think people need to keep in mind that this is a front wheel drive car. Even the all-wheel drive version is front wheel drive bias. Therefore if you were to add a turbo charger to this engine you would also need to change the transmission and drive train. Then this would be a completely different car. Keep in mind the Dodge Charge is a rear wheel drive car, even with the 3.6 Pentastar. That is why they are able to put a turbo charged V6 in there. Putting 400+ HP in a front wheel drive car just sounds crazy. The handling would be horrible. This is why all high performance cars with allot of HP are rear wheel drive, or rear wheel drive bias AWD cars.

 

[Black Knight]

The Lancer Evo is FWD based AWD - engine sideways same as the 200 etc...

As long as those rear wheels kick in the additional HP should not matter besides being hard on the drive-train, same as a RWD bias AWD vehicle.

 

[1350S]

The Lancer Evo is FWD based AWD - engine sideways same as the 200 etc...

As long as those rear wheels kick in the additional HP should not matter besides being hard on the drive-train, same as a RWD bias AWD vehicle.

Just a matter of getting the right tires on the front, my 245 45 18's made a huge difference.

 

[lightsout190]

The Lancer Evo is FWD based AWD - engine sideways same as the 200 etc...

As long as those rear wheels kick in the additional HP should not matter besides being hard on the drive-train, same as a RWD bias AWD vehicle.

How much HP and torque did the Lancer Evolution put out? What about the non AWD 200s cars with the 3.6 Pentastar engine? There would be no rear wheels to kick in there and some serious torque streer. Imagine the Hellcat or Demon being front wheel drive. I have noticed even with my car when I cam cruising along on the HWY in 9th gear and then suddenly give it a hard acceleration to rapidly speed up I get a bit of pull on the steering wheel. But if I am in S mode where the AWD is active with a 60% rear to 40% front torque split I get no pull at all.

 

[Tyler-98-W68]

The Transmission is rated to 354ft/lbs the PTU and RDM i'm not sure but its probably around the same 350ft/lbs mark The issue would not be getting power to the ground in the AWD version at all. Now that i've got quite a few mods and i'm tuned, I have issues with traction and tires spinning at all 4 corners now. If more power was added it would absolutely be put to good use. In the cherokee the AWD system has a few more settings to change the AWD bias, but the system is smart enough that from a dead stop IF you stomp on the gas it activates the rear wheels to prevent wheel slip, if you have enough power to spin the back tires too, thats a good problem to have.

I'm going to ask you guys this, since it is a FWD vehicle explain how the vehicle can send MORE power to the rear wheels than the front? There is no mechanism for the front driveshafts to become disconnected and not power the vehicle as much. I've jacked my vehicle up (in sport mode and all the modes) and left the front tires in the air and the rear on the ground.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox4X6YzNV0I

Power is ALWAYS going to the front wheels no matter what Jeep says. Sort of like how auto mode is FWD, yet every single time on takeoff it sends power to the rear. If you don't believe me, pull the PTU fuse and drive around you will immediately notice how its 100% fwd and changes the handling a lot.