I have a 2013 Chrysler 200 touring 2.4 L my vehicle won’t start, no crank. I have replaced the following: alternator, starter, new battery, new terminal brackets, new ECM and a crankshaft sensor. I still cannot get my vehicle to start. I need the community’s help, all my lights and everything turns on but the vehicle will not crank or do anything. I am wondering if it’s something to do with the ignition and is there a way I can turn on the key with all the lights on and try to manually jumpstart the starter and see if that works without harming anything. Just a question or thought. thanks
No crank no start
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It may take a while to put together all of the information into a troubleshooting guide.
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Cool let me know thanks for the info
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yes 200 with a 2.4
ok, if you need any of the subfiles let me know
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I seen the code for U0141, that can be caused by the TIPM, or the module which the code is set by which is WIN which in this situation has been replaced already by new one
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Also checked all the grounds at TIPM, all the can + and can -, I really don’t know where to check again
the code is active?
There are no other codes in any other modules?
Did you check the starter relay in the original TIPM?
All of the power wires referred to on the troubleshooting are good?
I will have to re-read the troubleshooting as I just scanned it while working on it.
There are no other codes in any other modules?
Did you check the starter relay in the original TIPM?
All of the power wires referred to on the troubleshooting are good?
I will have to re-read the troubleshooting as I just scanned it while working on it.
Yes, U0141 can be caused by the TIPM the reporting modules, the can wiring or the power supply to the TIPM.
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i will check to see if it is active, tipm has code for abs module, SAC module, tomorrow I can get you all the codes
Can you put the original TIPM back in.
If the replacements are not configured properly, it can cause a communication problem.
It appears that the TIPM can communicate if you are getting trouble codes form it.
If the replacements are not configured properly, it can cause a communication problem.
It appears that the TIPM can communicate if you are getting trouble codes form it.
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Yes I can, it is pretty straight foward
Do I understand the WIN module was replaced? If the WIN was replaced and the PIN not programmed the WIN would not be able to properly communicate.
Found this on another site
here is procedure for a 2014 200 limited (don't have access to 2015 200 C service manual right now):
The secret key is an ID code that is unique to each WIN. This code is programmed and stored in the WIN, the PCM, and each ignition key transponder chip. When the PCM or WIN is replaced, it is necessary to program the Secret Key Code into the new module using a diagnostic scan tool. Follow the programming steps outlined in the diagnostic scan tool for PCM REPLACED, WIN REPLACED, or TIPM REPLACED under MISCELLANEOUS FUNCTIONS for the WIRELESS CONTROL MODULE menu item as appropriate.
NOTE: | Programming the PCM or WIN is done using a diagnostic scan tool and a PIN to enter secure access mode. If three attempts are made to enter secure access mode using an incorrect PIN, secure access mode will be locked out for one hour. To exit this lockout mode, turn the ignition to the RUN position for one hour and then enter the correct PIN. Be certain that all accessories are turned OFF. Also, monitor the battery state and connect a battery charger if necessary. |
CAUTION: | Read all notes and cautions for programming procedures. |
NOTE: | If you are also replacing the WCM/WIN and/or Ignition Keys/FOBIKS refer to the module/programming order replacement guide before starting (Refer to 08 - Electrical/8E - Electronic Control Modules - Standard Procedure). |
Connect the scan tool.
Have a unique vehicle PIN readily available before running the routine.
Ignition key should be in RUN position.
Select “ECU View”.
Select “WIN Wireless Control”.
Select “Miscellaneous Functions.”
Select “PCM Replaced”.
Enter the PIN when prompted.
Used TIPMs, PCMs & WINs are not plug n' play. They are configured to the car that they are installed on and have a unique secret key code. The security code (VIN dependent) in the WIN, PCM & TIPM must match or else the car will be immobilized & the original vehicle keys will be invalid.
I would reinstall the original modules & start your diagnostics from there.
This can't be done without a capable scan tool.
U0141-LOST COMMUNICATION WITH IPM (FCM/TIPM)
1. SKREEM/SKIM VERIFICATION
NOTE: When entering the PIN, care should be taken because the SKREEM will only allow 3 consecutive attempts to enter the correct PIN. If 3 consecutive incorrect PIN’s are entered the SKREEM will Lock Out the scan tool. To exit Lock Mode, the ignition key must remain the Run position for I hour. All accessories must be off. A battery charger connected to the battery during this time period is recommended.
NOTE: On vehicles equipped with a premium Tire Pressure Monitoring (TPM) system, when the SKREEM and/or the spare tire pressure sensor is replaced with a new unit, a diagnostic scan tool MUST be used to run a routine that allows the SKREEM to be programmed with the ID number and location of the spare tire pressure sensor mounted in the wheel of the spare tire. Follow the programming steps outlined in the diag- nostic scan tool for “Learn Spare Tire Sensor ID” under “Miscellaneous Functions” for the “WCM/Wireless Control Module” menu item as appropriate. In addition, if the SKREEM is replaced, the spare tire must be dismounted from its wheel to access and note the ID number on the spare tire pressure sensor so that the ID code for that sensor can be programmed into the new SKREEM.
1. Reconnect the previously disconnected components and connectors.
2. Obtain the vehicle’s unique Personal Identification Number (PIN) assigned to it’s original SKREEM.
3. NOTE: If the PCM and the SKREEM are replaced at the same time, program the PCM VIN into the PCM first. All vehicle keys will then need to be replaced and programmed to the new SKREEM.
4. With the scan tool, select Miscellaneous Functions, WCM/Wireless Control Module. Then select the desired procedure and follow the display on the scan tool.
5. If the vehicle is equipped with Tire Pressure Monitoring System program the Palcard Pressure Values into the WCM/SKREEM.
6. Ensure all the customer’s key have been programmed into the new module if necessary.
7. With the scan tool, ease all DTCs. Perform 5 ignition key cycles, leaving the key on for at least 90 seconds per cycle.
8. With the scan tool, read SKREEM DTC(s).
9. NOTE: During PCM/ECM replacement, ensure to transfer the secret key information from the SKREEM to the new PCM. The PCM stores this information only. If the SKREEM ever needs to be replaced, the secret key information can be retrieved from the PCM and then transferred to the SKREEM for security use.
10. NOTE: If this vehicle is equipped with a Steering Column Lock Module, it must be replaced along with the SKREEM.
Are there any SKREEM DTC(s) present?
Yes >> Repair not complete, refer to the appropriate symptom.
No >> Repair is complete.
I would reinstall the original modules & start your diagnostics from there.
This can't be done without a capable scan tool.
U0141-LOST COMMUNICATION WITH IPM (FCM/TIPM)
1. SKREEM/SKIM VERIFICATION
NOTE: When entering the PIN, care should be taken because the SKREEM will only allow 3 consecutive attempts to enter the correct PIN. If 3 consecutive incorrect PIN’s are entered the SKREEM will Lock Out the scan tool. To exit Lock Mode, the ignition key must remain the Run position for I hour. All accessories must be off. A battery charger connected to the battery during this time period is recommended.
NOTE: On vehicles equipped with a premium Tire Pressure Monitoring (TPM) system, when the SKREEM and/or the spare tire pressure sensor is replaced with a new unit, a diagnostic scan tool MUST be used to run a routine that allows the SKREEM to be programmed with the ID number and location of the spare tire pressure sensor mounted in the wheel of the spare tire. Follow the programming steps outlined in the diag- nostic scan tool for “Learn Spare Tire Sensor ID” under “Miscellaneous Functions” for the “WCM/Wireless Control Module” menu item as appropriate. In addition, if the SKREEM is replaced, the spare tire must be dismounted from its wheel to access and note the ID number on the spare tire pressure sensor so that the ID code for that sensor can be programmed into the new SKREEM.
1. Reconnect the previously disconnected components and connectors.
2. Obtain the vehicle’s unique Personal Identification Number (PIN) assigned to it’s original SKREEM.
3. NOTE: If the PCM and the SKREEM are replaced at the same time, program the PCM VIN into the PCM first. All vehicle keys will then need to be replaced and programmed to the new SKREEM.
4. With the scan tool, select Miscellaneous Functions, WCM/Wireless Control Module. Then select the desired procedure and follow the display on the scan tool.
5. If the vehicle is equipped with Tire Pressure Monitoring System program the Palcard Pressure Values into the WCM/SKREEM.
6. Ensure all the customer’s key have been programmed into the new module if necessary.
7. With the scan tool, ease all DTCs. Perform 5 ignition key cycles, leaving the key on for at least 90 seconds per cycle.
8. With the scan tool, read SKREEM DTC(s).
9. NOTE: During PCM/ECM replacement, ensure to transfer the secret key information from the SKREEM to the new PCM. The PCM stores this information only. If the SKREEM ever needs to be replaced, the secret key information can be retrieved from the PCM and then transferred to the SKREEM for security use.
10. NOTE: If this vehicle is equipped with a Steering Column Lock Module, it must be replaced along with the SKREEM.
Are there any SKREEM DTC(s) present?
Yes >> Repair not complete, refer to the appropriate symptom.
No >> Repair is complete.
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What is the SKREEM module? Also, I’m just gonna put the original modules back and send it to the dealer
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Is the WIN and WCm different?
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Hello, put all the original modules in now.
Get U113B Lost communication with switch bank module-only active one
U110A lost communication with SCM
U0121 lost communication with anti lock brake module
Get U113B Lost communication with switch bank module-only active one
U110A lost communication with SCM
U0121 lost communication with anti lock brake module
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Hello everyone, I took the car to the nearby dealer, they said well the tech messed with the TIMP, and then all of a sudden the car started they said the TIMP needs to be replaced for 2100 . I got myself a TIMP from a supplier who coded it to a VIN, I installed it and the 200 still won’t start, I called the dealer and all they said was that the tech got lucky to start the car, I guess they were just guessing. Now I don’t even know what to look for anymore. Can anyone help?
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