I have a 2012 200S convertible and the wipers have started to activate on their own. It started when using the right turn signal but now they just come on. Has anyone else had this problem?
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Thread update. I fucking hate this car. It's two years later and after so far spending $1550, the problem is returning in exactly the same way.
screw this fucking car, I am so annoyed by this stupid problem, and chrysler REFUSING to admit that this is clearly a major issue with the TIPM. There are class action lawsuits underway regarding this piece of garbage TIPM, but they refuse to acknowledge it's so broken and needs to be addressed.
I've got a chrysler care number or whatever to try to escalate it. If they ask me to pay out of pocket to do exactly what I did two years ago for exactly the same problem, I'm going to start pursuing other options. I don't know if there are any legal alternatives available for me since this car is a 2011 model, but I will do whatever I can.
screw this fucking car, I am so annoyed by this stupid problem, and chrysler REFUSING to admit that this is clearly a major issue with the TIPM. There are class action lawsuits underway regarding this piece of garbage TIPM, but they refuse to acknowledge it's so broken and needs to be addressed.
I've got a chrysler care number or whatever to try to escalate it. If they ask me to pay out of pocket to do exactly what I did two years ago for exactly the same problem, I'm going to start pursuing other options. I don't know if there are any legal alternatives available for me since this car is a 2011 model, but I will do whatever I can.
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Hi bleedscarlet,
I'm so sorry to hear about this experience! If you would like to PM me your VIN, contact info, and the name of the dealership you've been working with, I'd be glad to look into your concerns and see if there is anything I can do to assist!
I'm so sorry to hear about this experience! If you would like to PM me your VIN, contact info, and the name of the dealership you've been working with, I'd be glad to look into your concerns and see if there is anything I can do to assist!
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I realize I'm jumping onto an older thread, but my 2014 is experiencing intermittent wiper problems. I am now on my 2nd rebuilt TIPM, as I was having problems with Traction Control light illuminating sometimes. I'm still having that issue, as well.
Probably not the TIPM for either issue. Any instrument cluster (CCN) or TIPM fault codes?
Check for clean, snug grounds.
Any traction control codes may be stored in the ABS (brake) module. Most auto parts stores can read these.
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The right (wiper) multifunction switch uses a combination of resistor multiplexing and conventional switching to control the many functions and features it provides. The switch receives a clean ground from the Steering Control Module (SCM), then provides resistor multiplexed and conventional analog return outputs to the SCM to indicate the selected switch positions. The SCM then sends electronic switch status messages over a Local Interface Network (LIN) data bus to the ElectroMechanical Instrument Cluster (EMIC) (also known as the Cab Compartment Node/CCN), and the EMIC relays electronic wiper and washer switch request messages over the Controller Area Network (CAN) data bus to other electronic modules in the vehicle.
If the SCM detects no inputs from the right multifunction switch, it transmits an electronic Signal Not Available (SNA) status message over the LIN data bus. The SNA status signals the EMIC to request other electronic modules to implement a fail safe mode of operation for the front and rear wiper systems. The fail safe mode will maintain the last selected front and rear wiper system operation for the remainder of the current ignition cycle, after which both wiper systems will default to OFF.
The right multifunction switch as well as the hard wired inputs and outputs of the switch may be diagnosed using conventional diagnostic tools and procedures. Refer to the appropriate wiring information. However, the most reliable, efficient and accurate means to diagnose this component requires the use of a diagnostic scan tool. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
Following are descriptions of how the right multifunction switch is operated to control the many front and rear wiper and washer system functions and features it provides:
Check for clean, snug grounds.
Any traction control codes may be stored in the ABS (brake) module. Most auto parts stores can read these.
OPERATION
The right (wiper) multifunction switch uses a combination of resistor multiplexing and conventional switching to control the many functions and features it provides. The switch receives a clean ground from the Steering Control Module (SCM), then provides resistor multiplexed and conventional analog return outputs to the SCM to indicate the selected switch positions. The SCM then sends electronic switch status messages over a Local Interface Network (LIN) data bus to the ElectroMechanical Instrument Cluster (EMIC) (also known as the Cab Compartment Node/CCN), and the EMIC relays electronic wiper and washer switch request messages over the Controller Area Network (CAN) data bus to other electronic modules in the vehicle.
If the SCM detects no inputs from the right multifunction switch, it transmits an electronic Signal Not Available (SNA) status message over the LIN data bus. The SNA status signals the EMIC to request other electronic modules to implement a fail safe mode of operation for the front and rear wiper systems. The fail safe mode will maintain the last selected front and rear wiper system operation for the remainder of the current ignition cycle, after which both wiper systems will default to OFF.
The right multifunction switch as well as the hard wired inputs and outputs of the switch may be diagnosed using conventional diagnostic tools and procedures. Refer to the appropriate wiring information. However, the most reliable, efficient and accurate means to diagnose this component requires the use of a diagnostic scan tool. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.
Following are descriptions of how the right multifunction switch is operated to control the many front and rear wiper and washer system functions and features it provides:
Thanks for the rapid and detailed response. My scanner only indicated an issue with the brake petal switch, relating to intermittent Traction Control indicator light illuminating.
Given there's no indication from the scanner where the problem is with the wipers, and that the problem is intermittent, I'm unclear what the next step is. My inclination is to point to the switch, itself.
I have an Innova 5610 scanner. I don't recall the exact code, and I erased it. The scanner produced the code with the comment that it was a faulty brake pedal switch. The brake lights do come on and go off with the pressing and releasing of the brake pedal. I replaced that switch about 3 years ago for the same issue, and I thought I was good to go until a little over a year ago when the problem returned. That particular intermittent issue, along with the intermittent problem with the wipers started occurring about the same timeframe.
Has the code come back yet? Can you 'make' the code happen? There really is no code for a faulty brake pedal switch, that's a dangerous way of thinking about it. A better way of thinking is a faulty brake pedal switch 'Circuit'. It doesn't have to be the switch itself. It can be a wire going to or coming from the switch or it could be a controller (rare) issue with 3 failure modes: open, shorted or implausible?
The brake switch is actually 3 switches in one. There is a switch for the rear lamps, another switch for the speed control & a switch as a ground sense for the PCM.
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If the wipers & brake switch fault act up at the same time I don't think that it is because of the brake switch, more likely something electrically that they have in common.
More information is needed.
The Innova 5610 is fairly capable for PCM, ABS, SRS (airbag) & TPM (tire pressure monitor). It probably can't read the TIPM (totally integrated power module) for any possible wiper system faults.
Possible brake pedal switch-related fault codes in ABS module:
The brake switch is actually 3 switches in one. There is a switch for the rear lamps, another switch for the speed control & a switch as a ground sense for the PCM.
If the wipers & brake switch fault act up at the same time I don't think that it is because of the brake switch, more likely something electrically that they have in common.
More information is needed.
The Innova 5610 is fairly capable for PCM, ABS, SRS (airbag) & TPM (tire pressure monitor). It probably can't read the TIPM (totally integrated power module) for any possible wiper system faults.
Possible brake pedal switch-related fault codes in ABS module:
- C1000-BRAKE PEDAL SWITCH 1 CIRCUIT PERFORMANCE
- C107C-BRAKE PEDAL SWITCH 1/2 STUCK
- C107D-BRAKE PEDAL SWITCH 1/2 CORRELATION
- B2304-WIPER PARK SWITCH INPUT CIRCUIT LOW
- B2305-WIPER PARK SWITCH INPUT CIRCUIT HIGH
- B2346-WIPER MOTOR LOW SPEED CONTROL CIRCUIT LOW
- B2347-WIPER MOTOR LOW SPEED CONTROL CIRCUIT HIGH
- B2348-WIPER MOTOR LOW SPEED CONTROL CIRCUIT OPEN
- B234A-WIPER MOTOR HIGH SPEED CONTROL CIRCUIT LOW
- B234B-WIPER MOTOR HIGH SPEED CONTROL CIRCUIT HIGH
- B234C-WIPER MOTOR HI SPEED CONTROL CIRCUIT OPEN
- B236F-WIPER MOTOR LOW SPEED CONTROL CIRCUIT OVERCURRENT
- B2370-WIPER MOTOR HIGH SPEED CONTROL CIRCUIT OVERCURRENT
I don't drive the car everyday, and mostly for local trips, so it may be several weeks before I see the indication in the instrument panel again. The code was indeed C1000. The wiper issue and the traction control light don't necessarily occur together. It's just that when they first occurred at around the same time, I would say it was within a week of each other. Again, I don't drive it everyday. My scanner didn't pick up any of the codes you listed above, or any codes at all.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you for this. As with any intermittent problem, there's no way of knowing when the issue(s) will return.
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